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Comments on: A sad day for Europe http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/ politically minded tree-hugging hippie posting about politics, religion, work, music, random events and whatnot Sat, 04 Apr 2020 17:53:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.1 By: pan http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18031 pan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:17:19 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18031 Ah dear..thats not good. :-| Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

Ah dear..thats not good. :-|

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By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18040 Melantrys Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:33:04 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18040 Not good at all, no. I just heard on the radio that the extreme right wingers in the Netherlands are already planning to force a similar referendum on their fellow politicians... Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

Not good at all, no.
I just heard on the radio that the extreme right wingers in the Netherlands are already planning to force a similar referendum on their fellow politicians…

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By: Lynnette in Minnesota http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18051 Lynnette in Minnesota Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:09:57 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18051 Sad, indeed. If we, the West, condemn the persecution of other religions in the Middle East by Islamic extremists, we must also condemn any such activity directed at any religious group within our own countries. Freedom of religion is an important tenet in any just constitution. Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

Sad, indeed.

If we, the West, condemn the persecution of other religions in the Middle East by Islamic extremists, we must also condemn any such activity directed at any religious group within our own countries. Freedom of religion is an important tenet in any just constitution.

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By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18052 Melantrys Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:28:43 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18052 :applause: Sadly, the main argument of most "enlightened" Islam "critics" is the following: "How can they demand fair treatment and freedom of religion from us here? Just look at Saudi Arabia!" And no matter how often ppl explain the flaw in their argument to them, they simply refuse to accept that a democracy has to grant rights to minorities and has to grant religious freedom because otherwise it would not be a democracy. Not to mention that often they simply state their own little prejudices and preconceptions of the "Isalmic world" as well-known fact. For instance that no Muslim country allows churches. Guess I must have hallucinated the ones I saw there then... Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

:applause:

Sadly, the main argument of most “enlightened” Islam “critics” is the following: “How can they demand fair treatment and freedom of religion from us here? Just look at Saudi Arabia!”

And no matter how often ppl explain the flaw in their argument to them, they simply refuse to accept that a democracy has to grant rights to minorities and has to grant religious freedom because otherwise it would not be a democracy.

Not to mention that often they simply state their own little prejudices and preconceptions of the “Isalmic world” as well-known fact. For instance that no Muslim country allows churches. Guess I must have hallucinated the ones I saw there then…

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By: David http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18155 David Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:00:44 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18155 I'm not sure I understand the reasoning for banning minarets. If there is no publicly audible call to prayer, why would anyone object? But, what about church bells? There must be some people who object to hearing church bells. Should the audible ringing of bells be banned too? Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

I’m not sure I understand the reasoning for banning minarets. If there is no publicly audible call to prayer, why would anyone object? But, what about church bells? There must be some people who object to hearing church bells. Should the audible ringing of bells be banned too?

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By: nastyKitten http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18157 nastyKitten Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:53:04 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18157 No, the annoying din of church bells is a beloved tradition in christian countries and has to be preserved as such. Minarets, on the other hand, are foreign and therefore evil, even if there's no audible call to prayer. Furthermore, as everyone knows, no Muslim country allows churches. I think I'll take a handful of aspirin now and have a nice lie-down, thank you... Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

No, the annoying din of church bells is a beloved tradition in christian countries and has to be preserved as such.
Minarets, on the other hand, are foreign and therefore evil, even if there’s no audible call to prayer.

Furthermore, as everyone knows, no Muslim country allows churches.

I think I’ll take a handful of aspirin now and have a nice lie-down, thank you…

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By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18159 Melantrys Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:59:07 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18159 You forgot the main argument these days. "Minarets are a symbol of power and of the political, radical, fundamental Islam. They stand for the Islamisation of our society. Therefore, if I forbid minarets I can make a statement <s>for xenophobia</s> against Islamism." Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

You forgot the main argument these days.

“Minarets are a symbol of power and of the political, radical, fundamental Islam.
They stand for the Islamisation of our society.

Therefore, if I forbid minarets I can make a statement for xenophobia against Islamism.”

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By: nastyKitten http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18163 nastyKitten Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:08:44 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18163 Lol, how could I forget THAT... Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

Lol, how could I forget THAT…

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By: khalid jarrar http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18182 khalid jarrar Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:06:04 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18182 So their argument was, if we allow minerates, then next there will be call for prayers, and next there will be rule of Sharea. I saw minutes of John Stewart show yesterday, he was like: REALLY? REALLY? FROM MINERATES TO SHAREA RULE IN JUST TWO STEPS?! loooool :D Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

So their argument was, if we allow minerates, then next there will be call for prayers, and next there will be rule of Sharea.

I saw minutes of John Stewart show yesterday, he was like: REALLY? REALLY? FROM MINERATES TO SHAREA RULE IN JUST TWO STEPS?!

loooool :D

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By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18185 Melantrys Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:12:12 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18185 Khalid understood it. (Or paid attention to the show he saw...) That's the islamophobe's world view in a nutshell, yup. Of course ppl wouldn't be ppl if there weren't minor differences in their theories... Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

Khalid understood it. (Or paid attention to the show he saw…) That’s the islamophobe’s world view in a nutshell, yup.
Of course ppl wouldn’t be ppl if there weren’t minor differences in their theories…

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By: pan http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18425 pan Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:56:55 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18425 Hi Mel, wie gehts? Haven't seen much from you in a while.. Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

Hi Mel, wie gehts? Haven’t seen much from you in a while..

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By: Caesar of Pentra http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18433 Caesar of Pentra Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:39:31 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18433 Ahem... *pokes ya* Update us with some new postings, dear! ;) Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

Ahem… *pokes ya*
Update us with some new postings, dear! ;)

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By: Caesar of Pentra http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18434 Caesar of Pentra Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:41:22 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18434 And btw, merry belated xmas and happy new year! :) Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

And btw, merry belated xmas and happy new year! :)

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By: 13 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18622 13 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:59:43 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18622 Aaaaaaaand... a wizzard's staff got a knob on the end, knob on the end, knob on the end.. i'm bored :( and i dont have internet. nor tv. i'm watching reruns ON DVD. and posting this via piggybacked intertubez. i really should go sleep though. Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

Aaaaaaaand… a wizzard’s staff got a knob on the end, knob on the end, knob on the end..

i’m bored :( and i dont have internet.
nor tv.

i’m watching reruns ON DVD.
and posting this via piggybacked intertubez.

i really should go sleep though.

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By: 13 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18734 13 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:06:35 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2009/11/29/a-sad-day-for-europe/#comment-18734 I still do not have internet. nor tv. i did order the first two discworld books. in paperbacks. thanks for convincing me :) in the end it was the Covers + the Price that clinched it. Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /www/htdocs/w0081e40/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 75

I still do not have internet. nor tv.

i did order the first two discworld books. in paperbacks.

thanks for convincing me :)
in the end it was the Covers + the Price that clinched it.

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