Comments on: Those Muslims and Their Odd Calendar… http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/ politically minded tree-hugging hippie posting about politics, religion, work, music, random events and whatnot Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:09:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.1 By: David http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4260 David Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:06:08 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4260 We should make a list of all the different New Year's Days. :) I'll bet somewhere there are people who celebrate the New Year in July! We should make a list of all the different New Year’s Days. :) I’ll bet somewhere there are people who celebrate the New Year in July!

]]> By: 13 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4262 13 Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:17:07 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4262 well, i know Nawrooz is i 21st of March, in Persian that means New Year it is also the Kurdish new year? firsthand info would do very well here.. any takers? Naw is new, and Rooz is Year also Rooznameh is Calendar, or book of years, as Nameh means book, i guess :) Shahnameh is book of Kings, shah is king.. errr.. but i digress. anywayyyyy: Thanks Mel! :D well, i know Nawrooz is i 21st of March, in Persian that means New Year

it is also the Kurdish new year? firsthand info would do very well here.. any takers?

Naw is new, and Rooz is Year

also Rooznameh is Calendar, or book of years, as Nameh means book, i guess :)

Shahnameh is book of Kings, shah is king.. errr.. but i digress.

anywayyyyy: Thanks Mel! :D

]]> By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4263 Melantrys Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:30:41 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4263 @ David: Well, the Chinese New Year is on Febuary 7th, according to Lu-Tse's Yearbook of Enlightenment 2008. @ 13: Oh, just keep on babbling; we're listening. :) @ David: Well, the Chinese New Year is on Febuary 7th, according to Lu-Tse’s Yearbook of Enlightenment 2008.

@ 13: Oh, just keep on babbling; we’re listening. :)

]]> By: ph http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4265 ph Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:04:57 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4265 Well a happy new Year to you too, even though I never remember the beginning of this year myself :P . salaam Well a happy new Year to you too, even though I never remember the beginning of this year myself :P .

salaam

]]> By: David http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4267 David Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:53:18 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4267 I have seen several additional spellings of Nawrooz. For example, there is Norooz, Nowruz and Nowrooz. I suppose it all depends on how a native Persian speaker transliterates into English. :) Anyway, my Iranian friends have taught me a lot about the holiday. They set a special table called the haft-seen table. Upon the table are symbols of seven things that are traditional to the Persian New Year. Seeds are planted that sprout green shoots, fruits are placed on the table, and all of my friends have a live goldfish on the table, as well. There are a few other things that I don't recall. Anyway, it makes perfect sense to me to have the New Year at the beginning of Spring. It is the time of rebirth after the cold and death of the Winter. I wonder what is the reason to have the Hijri New Year on January 10th? Or, why do the Chinese celebrate on February 7th? Are these dates historically important? I have seen several additional spellings of Nawrooz. For example, there is Norooz, Nowruz and Nowrooz. I suppose it all depends on how a native Persian speaker transliterates into English. :) Anyway, my Iranian friends have taught me a lot about the holiday. They set a special table called the haft-seen table. Upon the table are symbols of seven things that are traditional to the Persian New Year. Seeds are planted that sprout green shoots, fruits are placed on the table, and all of my friends have a live goldfish on the table, as well. There are a few other things that I don’t recall. Anyway, it makes perfect sense to me to have the New Year at the beginning of Spring. It is the time of rebirth after the cold and death of the Winter.

I wonder what is the reason to have the Hijri New Year on January 10th? Or, why do the Chinese celebrate on February 7th? Are these dates historically important?

]]> By: Caesar of Pentra http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4270 Caesar of Pentra Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:27:40 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4270 Thanks, Mel! And I'm happy to let you know that you can comment my blog! I've enabled that OpenID stuff! :) Thanks, Mel! And I’m happy to let you know that you can comment my blog! I’ve enabled that OpenID stuff! :)

]]> By: Lynnette in Minnesota http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4272 Lynnette in Minnesota Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:51:05 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4272 Beginning Farsi: Naw = new rooz = year nameh = book shah = king ( I actually knew that one :P ) Hmmm...maybe 13 can give us some Iraqi language lessons? I've learned a few words, but for some strange reason they are mostly derogatory in nature... :D Beginning Farsi:

Naw = new
rooz = year
nameh = book
shah = king ( I actually knew that one :P )

Hmmm…maybe 13 can give us some Iraqi language lessons? I’ve learned a few words, but for some strange reason they are mostly derogatory in nature… :D

]]> By: 13 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4289 13 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:30:32 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4289 David: "I wonder what is the reason to have the Hijri New Year on January 10th?" well its not Jan 10th, its actually Muharram 1st, 1429 AH! that is: the Hijri calendar dates time from the Hijra (Exodus) of the prophet Muhammed from Mecca to Medina: to signify the beginning of Islam: also, its Lunar, as opposed to the Solar Gregorian, so ALL months are 30 days :) and four months are the holy months in which (supposedly) no fighting should occur: Muharram, Rajab, Thul Qi'da, Thul Hijja (kinda equivalent to the christmas season, but 120 days long, oh and did i mention the fact that it seems no one seems to uphold the no fighting rule anymore?) :) Lynnette: well, thats Iraqi for you, the absolute first thing we teach to others are the swear words: just ask Mel :D the Iraqi Dialect is so rich and diverse, swear-word-wise :D, the dialect, rough as it is, adds flavour to the more obscene names :)) oh and Shahinshah is King of Kings :P lemme c: you already know a lot of arabic words! Rice, Algebra, Glass (the cup, not the material :D), and i thiiiiiiink the word Giraffe, among others! same as we know a lot of english words: Icecream, Paisickle (bicycle), Hello, Ai Lav Yoo, oh and most importantly: DOLAAR! :D David: “I wonder what is the reason to have the Hijri New Year on January 10th?”

well its not Jan 10th, its actually Muharram 1st, 1429 AH!

that is: the Hijri calendar dates time from the Hijra (Exodus) of the prophet Muhammed from Mecca to Medina: to signify the beginning of Islam:
also, its Lunar, as opposed to the Solar Gregorian, so ALL months are 30 days :)

and four months are the holy months in which (supposedly) no fighting should occur: Muharram, Rajab, Thul Qi’da, Thul Hijja (kinda equivalent to the christmas season, but 120 days long, oh and did i mention the fact that it seems no one seems to uphold the no fighting rule anymore?)

:)

Lynnette: well, thats Iraqi for you, the absolute first thing we teach to others are the swear words: just ask Mel :D
the Iraqi Dialect is so rich and diverse, swear-word-wise :D, the dialect, rough as it is, adds flavour to the more obscene names :))

oh and Shahinshah is King of Kings :P

lemme c: you already know a lot of arabic words!

Rice, Algebra, Glass (the cup, not the material :D), and i thiiiiiiink the word Giraffe, among others!

same as we know a lot of english words: Icecream, Paisickle (bicycle), Hello, Ai Lav Yoo, oh and most importantly: DOLAAR!

:D

]]> By: 13 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4290 13 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:31:48 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4290 oh and Thank You Mel! i mean, i generally honestly dont expect ppl to listen, thats why my comments seem like one long winded phrase rather than a couple of well thought passages, and so i thank you again, and have to go sleeeeeeep! G'bye! oh and Thank You Mel! i mean, i generally honestly dont expect ppl to listen, thats why my comments seem like one long winded phrase rather than a couple of well thought passages, and so i thank you again, and have to go sleeeeeeep!

G’bye!

]]> By: lelly http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4304 lelly Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:22:29 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4304 Thanks for the comments mel! I was only kidding about the habibi thing... Might I point out here that often he first thing people ask for in a foriegn language are swear words! At least in my experience... ;P Thanks for the comments mel! I was only kidding about the habibi thing…
Might I point out here that often he first thing people ask for in a foriegn language are swear words! At least in my experience… ;P

]]> By: Lynnette in Minnesota http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4307 Lynnette in Minnesota Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:01:23 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4307 13, <i>well, thats Iraqi for you, the absolute first thing we teach to others are the swear words:</i> Nooooo, I think that's a <i>guy</i> thing! :lol: I don't recall Morbido teaching us swear words! Shame on you. :P 13,

well, thats Iraqi for you, the absolute first thing we teach to others are the swear words:

Nooooo, I think that’s a guy thing! :lol: I don’t recall Morbido teaching us swear words! Shame on you. :P

]]> By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4308 Melantrys Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:33:20 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4308 @ PH: Fffffff, what a lousy Muslim you are! ;) @ David: :shifty: @ Caesar: Yay!!!!! *spams* @ Lynnette: Hm, I can only say "ass" in Arabic.... @ 13: :shifty: 13 again: Er, ok? No prob? Tesbah ala khair then. @ Lelly: :eh: Hm, I don't know enough swear words, I think. @ Lynnette: <i>thats Iraqi for you, the absolute first thing we teach to others are the swear words - - Nooooo, I think that’s a guy thing!</i> Well, that catches 13 coming and going... @ PH: Fffffff, what a lousy Muslim you are! ;)

@ David: :shifty:

@ Caesar: Yay!!!!! *spams*

@ Lynnette: Hm, I can only say “ass” in Arabic….

@ 13: :shifty:

13 again: Er, ok? No prob?
Tesbah ala khair then.

@ Lelly: :eh:

Hm, I don’t know enough swear words, I think.

@ Lynnette:

thats Iraqi for you, the absolute first thing we teach to others are the swear words -
- Nooooo, I think that’s a guy thing!

Well, that catches 13 coming and going…

]]> By: David http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4317 David Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:13:05 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4317 Thanks for your explanation Anarki. :) With a Lunar calendar, Muharram 1st would be a different day on different years. So, has the Hijri calendar ever been corrected to account for the 360 day year? As I recall, with the advent of the Gregorian calendar, they had to add something like 15 days all at once to correct for the prior 1500 years being a bit short. ;) I truly wish that there would be no fighting during this Muharram!! Thanks for your explanation Anarki. :) With a Lunar calendar, Muharram 1st would be a different day on different years. So, has the Hijri calendar ever been corrected to account for the 360 day year? As I recall, with the advent of the Gregorian calendar, they had to add something like 15 days all at once to correct for the prior 1500 years being a bit short. ;)

I truly wish that there would be no fighting during this Muharram!!

]]> By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4322 Melantrys Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:38:16 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4322 *edits* *spanks David for not using the preview function* *edits*

*spanks David for not using the preview function*

]]> By: David http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4324 David Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:04:40 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4324 Ouch, that hurts! :P Ouch, that hurts! :P

]]> By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4391 Melantrys Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:56:07 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2008/01/10/those-muslims-and-their-odd-calendar/#comment-4391 :D :D

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