Comments on: Secure country? http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/ politically minded tree-hugging hippie posting about politics, religion, work, music, random events and whatnot Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:16:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.1 By: Mafdet http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3158 Mafdet Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:18:37 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3158 *shakes head* *shakes head*

]]> By: David http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3161 David Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:01:18 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3161 I guess the happy couple's mistake was honeymooning in a small village. If they had chosen a more cosmopolitan local, no one would have thought twice about seeing a Muslim woman. They probably got reported by some delusional old woman. Still, it seems like the police response was a profound over reaction! Also, why did it take the police five days to drop by? This reminds me of one of my oldest friends. Some years ago, he was walking in a very nice neighborhood enjoying looking at exteriors of the beautiful homes of the wealthy residents. He was just walking along the side of the street. Suddenly a police car pulled up. The cop jumped out and demanded to know what he was doing there. My friend said he was just out walking and asked the cop what the problem was. The cop said someone had called and reported a prowler in the neighborhood. He suggested that it would be best if my friend left. Well, my friend happens to be black and he was walking in a neighborhood of all white rich people. So, of course, some old biddy became terrified and called the police! I guess the happy couple’s mistake was honeymooning in a small village. If they had chosen a more cosmopolitan local, no one would have thought twice about seeing a Muslim woman. They probably got reported by some delusional old woman. Still, it seems like the police response was a profound over reaction! Also, why did it take the police five days to drop by?

This reminds me of one of my oldest friends. Some years ago, he was walking in a very nice neighborhood enjoying looking at exteriors of the beautiful homes of the wealthy residents. He was just walking along the side of the street. Suddenly a police car pulled up. The cop jumped out and demanded to know what he was doing there. My friend said he was just out walking and asked the cop what the problem was. The cop said someone had called and reported a prowler in the neighborhood. He suggested that it would be best if my friend left. Well, my friend happens to be black and he was walking in a neighborhood of all white rich people. So, of course, some old biddy became terrified and called the police!

]]> By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3162 Melantrys Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:14:09 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3162 @ Mafdet: Indeed... @ David: Hm, I live in a small village, and although you are aware of my complaints on the basic background stereotyping that's part of "our" life, women with headscarf are a common enough sight here. As are men with black hair (and probably Arabic facial features; I didn't have the honour of seeing a picture of Omar yet ;) - the black hair is what the police mentioned as part of that Oriental look...). What I'm saying is, even in small remote places "Oriental" looking people shouldn't be such an alien sight, and if you're living in a village that must to some extent be living off the tourists staying there to enjoy the scenery it might be a good idea to be a bit more hospitable towards your (paying) guests, no matter what they look like and at which time of day they arrive... Well, if movies and tv series are anything to go by, then jumping to <b>that</b> conclusion seems to be a favourite pastime of people and police in wealthy American neighbourhoods anyway.... *whispers* I think you already told me that story once, but that might have been in a chat; I don't recall... @ Mafdet: Indeed…

@ David: Hm, I live in a small village, and although you are aware of my complaints on the basic background stereotyping that’s part of “our” life, women with headscarf are a common enough sight here. As are men with black hair (and probably Arabic facial features; I didn’t have the honour of seeing a picture of Omar yet ;) - the black hair is what the police mentioned as part of that Oriental look…).
What I’m saying is, even in small remote places “Oriental” looking people shouldn’t be such an alien sight, and if you’re living in a village that must to some extent be living off the tourists staying there to enjoy the scenery it might be a good idea to be a bit more hospitable towards your (paying) guests, no matter what they look like and at which time of day they arrive…

Well, if movies and tv series are anything to go by, then jumping to that conclusion seems to be a favourite pastime of people and police in wealthy American neighbourhoods anyway….

*whispers* I think you already told me that story once, but that might have been in a chat; I don’t recall…

]]> By: David http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3169 David Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:33:43 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3169 It might be fun to get about 20 "oriental" looking men and women together for an excursion to the Lüneburger Heide. Make sure the men have beards and the women are wearing full chador. Have them rent a bus and stop at every tourist destination in the region. It could be an experiment like the "freedom rides" of the 1960's in which black people rode busses through the segregated southern U.S. and deliberately drank from white's only water fountains and sat at white's only lunch counters. Be sure a film crew is on hand to document the journey. *whispers back* You are probably right. :) It might be fun to get about 20 “oriental” looking men and women together for an excursion to the Lüneburger Heide. Make sure the men have beards and the women are wearing full chador. Have them rent a bus and stop at every tourist destination in the region. It could be an experiment like the “freedom rides” of the 1960’s in which black people rode busses through the segregated southern U.S. and deliberately drank from white’s only water fountains and sat at white’s only lunch counters. Be sure a film crew is on hand to document the journey.

*whispers back* You are probably right. :)

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]]> By: Niklas http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3197 Niklas Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:00:02 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3197 Hey, police! Reminds me of Einstürzende Neubauten's track "Ich bins"; the title ("It's me") refers to what the German special police force says when asked "Who are you?" by people whose door they knock on. Apparently, "it's me" makes people more prone to open doors than "it's the police". Watching <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC31DmML0k4" rel="nofollow">this video</a> doesn't exactly make me think more of the German police...it's from the 1st May-riot in Berlin, 1999. See ATR get arrested and innocent bystanders get beaten up. Hey, police! Reminds me of Einstürzende Neubauten’s track “Ich bins”; the title (”It’s me”) refers to what the German special police force says when asked “Who are you?” by people whose door they knock on. Apparently, “it’s me” makes people more prone to open doors than “it’s the police”.

Watching this video doesn’t exactly make me think more of the German police…it’s from the 1st May-riot in Berlin, 1999. See ATR get arrested and innocent bystanders get beaten up.

]]> By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3205 Melantrys Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:59:06 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3205 @ David: Hhhhhm, if they accidentally drove into my county and stopped at the store to buy refreshments, the boss'd fear a mass shoplifting attack and not know whom to follow around in order to prevent it. <b>But</b> at least he wouldn't call in and report a terrorist threat. @ Omar: Bitte, bitte, you're welcome, what's-it-in-Arabic? Anytime. @ Niklas: Woah, looks like someone studied German police misconduct in-depth and through the ages. (Don't tell me you also secretly understand German like the Great Zakman does...? :bigeyes: ) Still, I gotta say, I preferred your email comment... ;) @ David: Hhhhhm, if they accidentally drove into my county and stopped at the store to buy refreshments, the boss’d fear a mass shoplifting attack and not know whom to follow around in order to prevent it.
But at least he wouldn’t call in and report a terrorist threat.

@ Omar: Bitte, bitte, you’re welcome, what’s-it-in-Arabic?
Anytime.

@ Niklas: Woah, looks like someone studied German police misconduct in-depth and through the ages. (Don’t tell me you also secretly understand German like the Great Zakman does…? :bigeyes: )

Still, I gotta say, I preferred your email comment… ;)

]]> By: David http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3219 David Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:58:09 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3219 Happy Samhain Mel! :) Happy Samhain Mel! :)

]]> By: David http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3228 David Thu, 01 Nov 2007 06:56:58 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3228 Hmmm, my comment wishing you a Happy Samhain yesterday was eaten by gremlins (or was it boogie men?)! ;) Hmmm, my comment wishing you a Happy Samhain yesterday was eaten by gremlins (or was it boogie men?)! ;)

]]> By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3230 Melantrys Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:05:40 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3230 Thank you David, and the same (belatedly) to you. Yeah, it was eaten by that oftentimes confused gremlin called Akismet. I choked it till it coughed your comment up again. My apologies. I'll send it over to that Will dude to get spanked; maybe it will behave afterwards. Thank you David, and the same (belatedly) to you.

Yeah, it was eaten by that oftentimes confused gremlin called Akismet. I choked it till it coughed your comment up again.
My apologies. I’ll send it over to that Will dude to get spanked; maybe it will behave afterwards.

]]> By: Niklas http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3234 Niklas Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:06:00 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3234 No, I sadly understand quite little of German, even though some words have morphed with my mother tongue, Swedish, that lets me understand a little. Still, I know enough German to know I shan't be fighting German police in the streets anytime soon... No, I sadly understand quite little of German, even though some words have morphed with my mother tongue, Swedish, that lets me understand a little. Still, I know enough German to know I shan’t be fighting German police in the streets anytime soon…

]]> By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3237 Melantrys Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:11:25 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3237 :think: :think:

]]> By: brab http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3521 brab Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:47:11 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3521 I'd kick up such a huge shit on those assholes! and hey melly! I’d kick up such a huge shit on those assholes!

and hey melly!

]]> By: Melantrys http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3532 Melantrys Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:10:07 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3532 I think that's what they're about to do... Hey, where have you <b>been</b>?! I think that’s what they’re about to do…

Hey, where have you been?!

]]> By: brab http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3546 brab Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:06:02 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3546 busy i guess! i don't use yahoo anymore and i don't look at the clawforum much either. busy i guess!
i don’t use yahoo anymore and i don’t look at the clawforum much either.

]]> By: 13 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3547 13 Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:38:08 +0000 http://melantrys.net/2007/10/28/secure-country/#comment-3547 whew.. well, to tell the truth: the po-lice had the right to react the way they did, busting in all of a sudden and all that, but they should have looked into it a bit more, a bit much more.. i mean, oriental? sheesh! we are NOT chinese! also, haven't anyone heard of surveillance? tracking? come on! whew.. well, to tell the truth: the po-lice had the right to react the way they did, busting in all of a sudden and all that,
but they should have looked into it a bit more, a bit much more.. i mean, oriental? sheesh! we are NOT chinese! also, haven’t anyone heard of surveillance? tracking? come on!

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